Dutch RTL5 Show… Joran Speaks, Again!
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Fox & Friends – Fox News – 02/24/10
New “Confession” in Natalee Holloway Case
Chief Suspect, Joran van der Sloot Now Claims He Dumped Body of Alabama Teen in Aruba Marsh; Prosecutors Downplay Account
Video Source – Article at Link
POLYGRAPH FROM EYEWITNESS IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE
By Steph Watts
Steph Watts Blog
I promised you on Sunday, I would post the documents, specifically the polygraph test that Tim Miller and John Silvetti arranged to have performed, and statements from J. Emanuel Geerman. He lives near the beach in Aruba, and claims he saw Joran Van Der Sloot AND his father, Paul, together the night Natalee Holloway disappeared – near where she is believed to have disappeared…..I find his story credible – what do YOU think?
The Learning Channel – Natalee Holloway: Lost in Paradise
Natalee Holloway’s story is every parent’s worst nightmare – the sudden and tragic disappearance of a child. Natalee’s mother, Beth, has been searching for four years and may have finally found her answer from the least likely source … the main suspect.
Date & Time (all times eastern/pacific)
Jan 17, 10:00 pm
Jan 18, 1:00 am
Jan 20, 7:00 pm
Jan 21, 2:00 am
Peter de Vries – Video and Translation – Dec. 13, 2009
Hat Tip – Video – BFN Member Bastibro
Hat Tip – Translation – BFN Member GBMW
08-02-2008 snippets of Joran’s statement because of the Patrick van der Eem – Peter R. de Vries / Range Rover footage.
10:17
Joran alone in the room…playing with his hat.
10:49
Joran: I don’t want to talk about the Holloway case.
Detective: This is a hearing of you. Your status: suspect. Aruba has decided to re-open the investigation based on the current facts.
10:22
Detective: You came to the policestation voluntarily because, so we understood from the media – from the lips of your lawyer – that you want to make a statement.
Joran: That is correct. Let me start by saying I’ve got a huge imagination…and I’m staying with my previous statements given to the police – thus not the one at Peter R. de Vries – …that I’m keeping to those. That is what happened. And that what is talked about there (meaning the Peter R. de Vries tapes)…I’ve fantasized it all.
10:25
Joran: I wanted him to think I’m a smart guy…and that I would know what to do in a difficult situation.
Detective: Impress him?
Joran: Yes.
Detective: So it was more like presenting your CV: this is what you get.
Joran: Well, in the 8 months with me he’s insinuated things towards me a few times…I just knew: that is what he wants to hear…a story like that. I’ve had plenty of time to come up with something. I’m familiar with the case myself so I’ve also been thinking: what could possibly have happened. This is a scenario I choose to tell him but it’s not based on the truth.
10:40
Joran: I wanted, because of his stories he didn’t know,….I figured…okay…I’m going to tell him that I got away with something like that.
Detective: And you use the disappearance of Natalee for that?
Joran: And I used the disappearance of Natalee for that.
10:25
Detective: Tell, from your experience, the essential points…from the whole story…from all the conversations you had with Patrick what were deliberate lies..
Joran: Yes…that’s all I supposedly have done.
Dolph Richardson: Tangible.
Detective: Very tangible. According to me there are things that went the way they went.
Joran is silent for a bit and says then: Yeah…everything you…I’m referring to my previous statements to the police. Everything I told there is based on the truth.
10:48
Detective: Only, in the file as it is, there are facts and circumstances you can or can’t easily validate. You don’t do that.
Silence for a bit.
The simple fact: if we assume the given: Joran at the beach with Natalee. The simple fact: Joran leaves the beach & goes home. How?
Joran: I’ve also given a previous statement about that as well.
Detective: Yeah…which version is it?
Joran (annoyed & arrogant): You’re not listening very well.
Detective: I am listening.
Joran: I’m staying with my last version….
Dolph Richardson: And what was that?
Joran is silent for a short time…says then: Yeah, I’m saying I’m staying with that statement…you have to go back to that statement.
Detective: No, I’ve just said not any of that ’seek the difference’.
Joran: I’m telling you: I’m staying with my last given statements. And I don’t want to discuss the Holloway case.
10:43
Dolph Richardson (annoyed): I’m done with it!
Joran: Okay.
Dolph Richardson: So tell the truth. We start again…tell the truth! I didn’t come here to listen to this bullshit story, sorry.
Joran: Okay, then we’re done.
Dolph Richardson: No, tell the truth.
Joran: Then I’m exercising my right to be silent…then we’re done here. Piece of cake. Okay…then I’m leaving now.
11:49
Detective: Come with your truth.
Joran: I’ve given that already.
Detective: Then I’m asking you…what is your truth?
Joran (annoyed & arrogant): If I have to say it a 100 times, I will say it a 100 times: I’m referring to my previous statements.
Detective: Holiday Inn…your truth. It’s in the file.
Joran: Yes, that’s in the file.
Detective: Without a doubt it is certain that it was a big bullshit story. That is your truth. Then you’re still talking bullshit, Joran.
Joran: Well, that is my truth.
11:54
Detective: And may I – based on the de Vries tapes & the file – perhaps ask a question about your shoes? Clear that up…what happened to your focking shoes?
Joran: I’d rather not…I’d rather talk about something that is founded on proof.
? (don’t know who’s saying this): For example the shoes.
Dolph Richardson: What can you proof?
Joran: If I don’t know where they are how can I give proof?
Detective: Tell us where to look.
Joran: I don’t know…I left them at the beach so I don’t know. And I don’t want to discuss that. (emphasizing this)
11:01
Detective: We have found Daury. So that’s correct.
Joran: But he doesn’t know anything. Daury is someone I gotten to know on Aruba…I told you.
Detective: Yes, but we’ve found Daury. We’ve talked to Daury.
Joran: That’s just the name I came up with for some reason.
12:17
Detective: How do you prove based on the Peter R. de Vries tapes that Natalee didn’t die or pass out in your arms?
Joran: I’m saying that that isn’t true. You will just have to believe me on my big brown eyes.
Detective: No, that’s not possible anymore.
Joran: Yeah…but how do you want me to say it otherwise?
Detective: That is over and done with….can’t happen anymore.
Joran (annoyed): You know damn well I can’t prove that. What you’re coming up with are things…
Detective: No…so you can’t prove that.
Joran: No.
12:20
starts in the middle of a sentence…
Detective: ….that you, also in this conversation, and that is an indisputable fact…let me express myself carefully…aren’t telling the truth.
At this moment Joran looks away…not meeting the detective’s / Dolph Richardson’s eyes.
Joran makes a move to stand up…
Dolph Richardson: Sit…he’s going to prove it. He’s not bluffing. That’s the difference between my co-worker and you. You’re (pointing at Joran) are bluffing and he’s (pointing at the detective) not.
Joran (annoyed): Okay…as far as I’m concerned we’re done here.
Detective: No, but he can really…he’s not bluffing.
Joran: Well, prove it.
Joran is still moving as if in doubt to go or not.
Dolph Richardson: Well listen…sit..
Joran: Come…show your so called proof. You don’t have that. I know you don’t. So what are you saying that ‘you’ll prove’ while I know that won’t be the case?
Detective: I’m fine with it.
Joran: Yes.
Detective: I am (emphasizing this) going to prove that you haven’t told the complete truth in today’s story.
Dolph Richardson: We are going to prove that.
Detective: And I don’t feel any need whatsoever to share this with you at the moment.
Joran: And I don’t feel any need whatsoever to hear it.
Dolph Richardson: Good.
Detective: Then we agree on that.
Joran: Yeah. Yeah…then we’re done right? Easy.
Detective: We’re really done.
Natalee Holloway Added to Alabama Department of Public Safety Missing Children List
By Jeremy Gray — The Birmingham News
November 06, 2009, 8:02PM
On Thursday, more than four years after the Mountain Brook teen disappeared while on a senior trip in Aruba, Natalee Holloway was added to a list of missing children on the Alabama Department of Public Safety Web site.
Special Agent Judy Orihuela, a spokeswoman with the Miami office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, said tonight that Holloway’s family requested that information be added to the site.
The notice describes her as an “endangered” missing person and lists her current age as 23. It asks that anyone with information call 1-800-228-7688.
Holloway disappeared on May 30, 2005 hours before she and classmates from Mountain Brook High School were to return home from their trip.
Orihuela said she did not know what prompted the family to request that her picture be posted alongside 13 other missing children and teens from across Alabama, some who have been missing for more than 10 years and others who disapperared as recently as a few months ago.
In March, an investigator hired by Holloway’s father, Dave Holloway, who has said many times that he would not give up until all options were exhausted, searched a pond in Aruba. Nothing was found. Holloway’s mother, Beth Holloway, has also continued to press for answers in the case and in April ”Loving Natalee,” a book about her family’s ordeal, was published.
Natalee ~ Missing 52 Months
By Lousw, BFN Member
Another month has come to an end once again without knowing what really happened to Natalee or where she may be at this time. 1,585 days of wondering, waiting, hoping that someone would come forward with the truth and end this horrendous situation.
Although it has been so long, there is one thing that I still have and that is Hope. To lose Hope would mean that I concede to defeat – that I give up on Natalee – and that is something that I can not and will not do. Beth has stated her feelings about Hope and I can not agree more. She said, “Hope is a universal message that gets us through the times that are ahead” … “Hope is what keeps me going. You have to keep hoping for the future.”
The reality is that life must go on, but that does not mean that you should not remember. Beth says that not a single day goes by that she does not think about Natalee. I don’t call that a compulsion or obsession, I call it a feeling from the heart. Natalee is in our hearts and will be there forever and we will not forget.
I have put together a small scrapbook about Natalee. I will try to add to it from time to time. The final page of this scrapbook, however, has not been entered and will not be until Natalee is found and brought home. I do have Hope that I will be able to enter that final page.
Beth Holloway – Inspirational Speaker
Inspirational Speaker Beth Holloway’s life changed quite dramatically in the summer of 2005 when her daughter Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high graduation trip to Aruba.
Natalee Holloway: 4 Years On
American High School student Natalee Holloway disappeared 4 years ago to the day on Aruba in the Dutch Antilles. Joran van der Sloot soon became a prime suspect.
For those who somehow lost track a bit, here the names of some of the players in the Natalee case:
Natalee Ann Holloway (18) (picture): was at Aruba for a schooltrip, together with classmates, all from Mountain Brook (Birminham) Alabama.
Joran Van der Sloot: Prime suspect in the disappearance. Publically trashed after a TV program from Peter de Vries, 3 februari 2008.
Deepak Kalpoe, (21): Originally from Suriname, lives in Aruba. Worked at a Cybercafe in the period of Natalee’s disappearance, became a suspect.
Satish Kalpoe (18): Originally from Suriname, brother of Deepak. Also a suspect.
Paulus Van der Sloot: Lawyer. In training to become a judge, father of the prime suspect Joran. Suspect for a while as well.
Dave Holloway (48): Natalee’s father.
Beth Twitty (45): Natalees mother. Divorced from Dave and now also divorced from Jug Twitty. Said to have a relationship with John Ramsey, father of murdered JonBenét Ramsey (6).
Jug Twitty (49): Natalee’s stephfather (was) married to Beth Twitty.
Robin Holloway (40): Natalee’s stephmother, married to Dave Holloway.
Linda Allison: Natalee’s aunt and sister of Dave Holloway. Occasional spokeswoman of the family and involved in the search by Equusearch.
Marcia (Allan) Twitty: Natalee’s aunt. Beth’s sister in law. Often a TV guest in interviews regarding the case.
Thomas & Hunter Twitty: (23-april-87): Twins, Natalee’s cousins, sons of Marcia en Tom Twitty. Attend Mountain Brooke High School as well and were togher with Natalee on Aruba. In some theories they were named as the first target of an Aruba kidnap in relation to alledged money-laundering if the Twitty family for Nicaraguan crime lords.
Art Wood: Former secret agent. Member of the Jossy Mansoers investigative team on Aruba. Accused the Dutch authorities of a cover-up.
Harold Copus, Former-FBI special agent, pursued Deepak Kalpoe aan.
T. J. Ward, Former FBI agent en private investigator, hired by the Holloway family.
Jan van der Straaten: Former head of police on Aruba. Then head of the investigative team. Friend of Paulus van der Sloot. Supposedly would have answered the door when the police came to search the van der Sloot estate and limited the terms of the search.
Karin P.J. Janssen: Public prosecutor in the Natalee Holloway case. Collided with Justice Minister Croes and was made to leave. Janssen was elected ‘Woman of the year’ on Aruba in 2005. Famous quotes: “You know, you keep acting like this, Mr. Twitty, we’re going to quit.” 28-8-05 “We can’t book people when we want… (like) a bunch of cowboys.” 3-6-05.
Hans Mos: Aruban Public prosecutor, successor of Janssen. By now also on the way out.
Vivian van der Biezen: head of legal and policy assistance for the Aruba prosecutor’s office
Anita Van der Sloot: art/drama teacher at AIS. Mother of Joran van der Sloot.
Dr. Phil: Forged a tape with the Kalpoe brothers statements. Was convinced Natalee was sold into slavery to Mexico. The Kalpoe brothers sued Phil McGraw, CBS and Jamie Skeeters (a P.I. who died in January), alleging the clandestinely recorded jailhouse conversation was doctored heavily to change the elder Kalpoe’s response from “No, she didn’t” to “She did.” Versions of the original and aired tapes available on YouTube and other websites appear to back Kalpoe’s contention that his words were altered.
Nadira Rameriz: Mother of the Kalpoe bros.
Steve Croes: Former DJ on the boat ‘Tatoo’, now employed at Carlos’n Charlies.
Steve supported the fake alibi’s of the 3 prime suspects.
Ruben Tappenberg: Aruban government spokesman. Accused by Wood as part of the cover-up. Criticised Bob Riley’s call for a boycott of Aruba.
Rudy Croes, Justice minister on Aruba.
Freddy Arambatzis-Zedan: Friend and neighbour of the Van der Sloot family. Was a guest in the van der Sloot house on the night in question.
Lorenzo Van Rijn: Supposedly a bastard son of Paul van der Sloot and half-brother to Joran. Suspected of drug-trafficking. Named as being the ‘Daury’, that supposedly had helped Joran to dump Natalee’s body.
Daury Rodriguez: Supposedly the Daury that alledgedly helped Joran to alledgedly dump Natalee’s body in the ocean No evidence of any involvement was ever found and he did not own a boat.
Antonio Carlo: Former lawyer of Joran. Had asked for a meeting with DA Karin Janssen in order to ‘relieve his conscience’ In this secret meeting he supposedly had said that Joran was involved but that it was up to the police to find enough evidence.
Tim Miller: Searched the island with specialized equipment.
Valentijn Van der Sloot: Younger brother of Joran. Kept a blog on the case.
Geoffrey van Cromvoirt: (19) Aruban subject. Arrested on April 15, 2006 solely on a rumour that he ‘knew more about it’. Son of Wilhelm van Cromvoirt.
Wilhelm Bernardus Henricus van Cromvoirt: Father of Geoffrey. Owner of VCB securities that hired out security personnel to Hotels. VCB (Video Camera Bewaking) also founded the ‘Visibility team’ a policie affiliated private security team that patrols the beaches. Both Geoffrey van Cromvoirt as well as Michael Dompig were at one time members of the visibility team.
Joe Tacopina: American lawyer handling the interests of Joran and Paul van der Sloot.
Rosemary Arnold: Joe Tacopina’s right hand ‘man’.
Arjan Debie: Lawyer to Joran.
Richie Koch: Lawyer to Joran.
Ruud Offringa: Lawyer to Deepak
Rudy Oomen: Lawyer to Deepak.
Arly Swaen: Lawyer to Paul van der Sloot
Guido Wever: Male model. Arrested May 2006 (then 19) in Utrecht the Netherlands on suspicion of battering, kidnapping and murder on request of the Aruban authorities who requested his extradiction. Wever was an apprentice croupier at the casino of Natalee’s hotel. He was working at the casino on May 29 2005, the night before NAtalee’s disappearance. After Natalee’s disappearance he was questioned 5 times. His arrest followed incriminating statements made by various former collegues at the casino. Supposedly he had appeared at work, the day after Natalee’s disappearance ‘looking worried’ and stopped working shortly thereafter ‘sooner than was planned’. Witnesses suddenly also remembered 8 months after the facts that he had had some deep scratches. Aided by lawyer Gerard Spong Wever was released 3 days later and though he ‘remained a suspect’, the police never showed any interest in him anymore. Spong mentioned Wever’s homoseksueal orientation as a factor that would make his involvement with an alledged rape turned murder of Natalee as highly unlikely. Rumours say that Natalee is burned in the Crematorium dat Guido’s moeder Yolanda supposedly has on Aruba.
Gerald Dompig: Former head of police on Aruba. Openly stated that Joran could be innocent and that Natalee could have suffered an overdose. He was accused of incompetence. Supposedly Dompig is the brother in law of Boeti Naar and again supposedly the uncle of the Kalpoe brothers. In an interview with filmmaker Gielen he said to have been intimidated and hamperd in his investigation. He was not allowed to investigate the close family of Natalee.
Michael Dompig: Son of Gerald Dompig. Was interrogated as a witness twice in 2006 following the arrest of Van Cromvoirt. Supposedly he was the one implicating Van Cromvoirt. Stated in an interview with Fox News that the Holloway family tried to smear his father. Knew Geoffrey van Cromvoirt through the ‘visibility team’
Xavier ‘Boeti’ Naar: Beach bum, ex-convict, drug dealer? Supposed brother in law of Gerald Dompig. Alledgedly he and narcotics cop Dennis Jacobs helped DA Karin Janssen to implicate two security guards -Abraham Jones (28) and Mickey John (30) . Boeti supposedly lived in a tent on the beach, close to where Natalee disappeared. In Oktober the seizure of 10 kilo cocaine leads to Boeti Naar.
Noriana Pietersz: Mickey John’s lawyer
Patrick van der Eem: Former drug dealer. Carries a scar called a ‘boca grande’-supposedly given to him by criminal allies because he was a snitch. Won Joran’s trust. Contacted Peter de Vries in order to tape Joran’s confession. Wrote a book about the case. Was not allowed into the US because of his drug history. Later convicted for aggravated assault on his girlfriend.
Poentje Castro: Aruban journalist of Un dia den bida. Taped a conversation with Patrick van der Eem in which van der Eem supposedly had said to know who threw Natalee in the ocean. As he result he was threathened by van der Eem (which was taped again).
Jossy Mehsen Mansur, (75): Aruban businessman, Libanese by origine. Editor of Diario in Aruba. Acused of smuggle and money laundering. Developped his own vision on the Natalee disappearance and formed his own research team. Often interviewed on Fox News en CNN Headline News. His motive for this supposedly is a grudge against the Aruban government.
Bob Riley: Governor of Alabama. Called for an Aruba boycott.
Elgin Zeppenfeldt: Lawyer of the Deepak brothers in their civil suit against Beth Holloway, Dr. Phil and Harpo productions.
Arlene Ellis Schipper: Spokeswoman for the Justice department in Aruba. According to rumours a cousin of Guido Wever.
Arjan Wezel: On line poker buddy of Joran who truthfully to his name (‘Weasel’) set up a trap for Joran together with Peter de Vries regarding the alledged supplying of Thaise prostitutes in 2008. It remained unclear if Joran really committed a fellony here or that it was Weasel who did the entrapment which surely was a fellony.
‘Celes’: Self-decared girlfriend of Joran who in November 2008 after the ‘Joran in Thai women trafficking’program of de Vries ‘suddenly’ remembered that Joran had made incriminating statements to her.
Murphy Jenkins: The alias used by Joran van der Sloot in his dealings with Arjan ‘what’s in a name’ Wezel.
Joe Mammana: Philedelphia businessman who promised a 100.000 USD reward in the Natalee Holloway case. According to some a philantropist, according to others a criminal who served time for fraude, aggravated assault, narcotics trafficking, grand theft auto and identity theft.
Peter de Vries: (“Peeter Air de Freez”) Crime reporter, claimed to have ‘solved’ the case but it resulted in public outcry against Joran, not in a conviction. De Vries left too many loose ends. He e.g. did not check the phonerecords of the phonebooth neer the hotel and did not go into the many questions surrounding the arrival of Beth on Aruba.
Renée Gielen: Filmmaker on Curaçao (Dutch Antilles) who in the documentary ‘Natalee, the unrevealed Time Lines’ sheds light on other aspects of the case.
Julia Renfro, a Los Angeles native who is editor in chief of Aruba Today News Magazine and photographer for Dutch based Bon Dia, initially took the side of Holloway’s parents when they sought publicity on the disappearance and lambasted Aruban police for following Dutch investigative procedures rather than those in the United States. Later changed her opinion because she found Beth Twitty’s behavior ‘odd from the get-go’.
